During the first half of the program, Ian Punnett welcomed author Michael Norman, who shared ghost stories from Minnesota. "I really prefer to find first hand accounts from credible witnesses," the former journalism instructor said, "in fact, if they're a little reluctant to tell me the story then that's even better." Norman shared tales from the "Land of 10,000 Lakes" that included a mysterious pair of shoes inside a museum that changed location overnight as well as a series of sightings in the Fitzgerald Theater, made famous by Minnesota native Garrison Keillor.
Norman also reflected on what set the region's ghost stories apart from average tales of spirit encounters. He noted that people in the area tended to be "a little more guarded" and, when they do confide in others, the accounts take a more direct approach unlike the colorful campfire fare one would normally find in a ghost story. On the nature of the spirits witnessed, he observed that a recurring trend amongst the stories is that the ghosts often appear as three-dimensional beings rather than the traditional ethereal entity. It is only after the slightly askew encounter that the observer realizes "this could not have been a real person."
One witness that Norman discussed was a woman, whom he called "Sylvia," that has had so many strange experiences that she "keeps lists of things that go on in the house." Over the years, he said, Sylvia has repeatedly seen the figure of a young girl dressed like someone from Little House on the Prairie. Perhaps the most unique encounter she had with the entity was on a bright Saturday morning when it suddenly skipped into her dining room. In the tale, the ghost child "looks at her, smiles, turns away, and skips off into the kitchen." When Sylvia followed the little girl into the other room, she found that her visitor was "nowhere to be seen."
The remainder of the program featured Open Lines and included a number of callers discussing the pros and cons of immunizations and one caller who had developed a growing fear of bed bugs based on last week's show. Another caller, Marty in Wisconsin, who put forward his theory that President Obama's campaign mantra of "Yes, we can" sounds like "Thank you, Satan" when played backwards. If true, Marty said, "it's literally one of the largest spells, if you will, ever perpetrated on the human race."
Previously scheduled guest, Trevor Hobley, will be rescheduled for a future date.
# The Nearly Departed: Minnesota Ghost Stories and Legends
# Haunted Homeland
# Haunted Heritage
America's Occult History
Mitch Horowitz, William Gladstone
During the first three hours, well-known voice of occult and esoteric ideas, Mitch Horowitz discussed how the occult is very much part of American history. Though there are many different aspects to the occult, there's a shared belief in the idea that an invisible realm exists beside our own, he explained. Occultists in America, who got their start in the 1600s, differentiated themselves from their European counterparts, by using occult practices and ideas as tools of self-help, and to promote social progress. In fact, the American colonies quickly became known as a haven for the religiously liberal, and unorthodox, he detailed.
The spiritualism movement swept over the country in the mid 19th century, and seances were even held at the White House with President Lincoln. Spiritualism, with its emphasis on female mediums, helped foster the women's rights movement, Horowitz commented. Franklin Roosevelt's Vice President, Henry Wallace, had a heavy interest in the occult, and it was he that suggested the design of eye over the pyramid for the US currency, which first appeared on the dollar in 1935. Ronald and Nancy Reagan were known for their devotion to astrology, and under the advice of astrologer Carroll Righter, his inauguration in 1967 as California's governor took place at the odd time of 12:10 AM.
The 'positive thinking' philosophy is as "American as apple pie," and was developed in the mid-19th century by Phineas Quimby, who believed that sickness and bad fortune could be related to one's thought process. Mary Baker Eddy, the founder of Christian Science, was said to be influenced by Quimby, Horowitz noted. He also talked about the Ouija Board, the "game" marketed by Parker Brothers. While there have been a lot of frightening tales associated with it, some have had positive experiences, such as the poet James Merrill who said his epic prize-winning poem, The Changing Light at Sandover, was channeled through the board.
2012 & Mayan Calendar
Last hour guest, author William Gladstone talked about the meaning of 2012 and Mayan prophecy, which he's explored in his new novel The Twelve. The book incorporates some elements from his own life, such as a profound near-death experience.
# Occult America: The Secret History of How Mysticism Shaped Our Nation
# The Twelve
Internationally recognized authority in bridging science and spirit, and a leading voice in new biology, Bruce Lipton, Ph.D., spoke about ways humanity can evolve by freeing itself of old belief systems and programming. Political philosopher and humorist Steve Bhaerman, who co-authored with Lipton their new book Spontaneous Evolution, joined in the second hour of the discussion.
Lipton outlined what he called the "Four Myth-Perceptions of the Apocalypse":
* The world or universe is Newtonian in nature-- based on physical matter, and materialistic values. This is being disproved by quantum physics, which shows that an invisible realm is involved in shaping matter, and points to the connection between science and spirituality.
* We're a victim of our genes. We're not a victim of heredity, but can actively participate in the health of our cells/genes through our perceptions and thoughts, and breaking free from subconscious programming.
* The world is based on competition. This kind of Darwinian thinking keeps us armed, guarded and stressed. Evolution actually favors community and cooperation.
* Random evolution occurred. Organisms were designed to bring harmony to the environment; they are adaptive, not random.
We allow fear, habit, and programming to box us in, and do things against our better nature, Bhaerman commented. He performed for a few minutes as his humorous character Swami Beyondananda, who shared his "little imparticles of wisdom." "Would you like to be in the now, more?" he asked George, who replied affirmatively. "Well, it's too late, it's already done!" Swami retorted. "We are all in this together...In this planet that we have right now, we have to love thy neighbor as thy selves. Otherwise, there goes the neighborhood," Swami continued.
Institutions are failing us, because they are based on false beliefs, said Bhaerman. Lipton noted the need to integrate oppositional viewpoints, such as conservative and progressive. It just takes a small percentage of the population to become more coherent in their thought process, which in turn can alter the entire field and manifest change, and lead to humanity's evolution, he added.
# Spontaneous Evolution: Our Positive Future (and a Way to Get There from Here)
British ufologist and cryptozoologist Nick Redfern talked about his new book Science Fiction Secrets which probes the intertwining connections between works of fiction, and governmental secrecy & experiments, conspiracies, and the paranormal. Among the items he covered:
* Pres. Ronald Reagan, upon viewing Steven Spielberg's movie ET at the White House in 1982, was said to have whispered to the director that a handful of people in the room know how true this movie really was.
* Soviet leader Josef Stalin may have been inspired by reading the H.G. Wells' science-fiction novel, The Island of Dr. Moreau, when he created a project that attempted (unsuccessfully) to breed humans with apes, in order to create an invincible soldier.
* Another Wells novel, The Invisible Man, may have influenced the US military's secretive attempts to perfect invisibility for its warships in WWII, in what became known as the Philadelphia Experiment.
* Government documents at Fort Dietrich mention lethal alien viruses and plans of action, which are similar to the scenarios written about by Michael Crichton in his book The Andromeda Strain.
* The pilot episode of The X-Files spin-off, The Lone Gunmen, featured a plot line similar to the 9-11 attacks, though the program aired seven months before the event (video clip).
* The FBI secretly spied on a number of science-fiction authors, including Philip K. Dick, Aldous Huxley, and George Orwell. The US Air Force spied on 1950s filmmaker Mike Conrad, who claimed to be using real UFO footage shot in Alaska in his movie.
* Bernard Newman may have incorporated secret files about crashed discs in his 1948 novel, The Flying Saucer, which describes a "false flag" operation in which the military stages fake UFO crashes to bring the nations of Earth together.
* The British Ministry of Defence offered assistance to the BBC in its science-fiction TV series Invasion Earth in 1998, amid rumors they were trying to acclimatize the public to the alien presence.
Last hour guest, paranormal investigator Joshua P. Warren detailed differences in alien types, such as greys and reptilians, and reported on his latest UFO Contest, in which participants built and flew their own fake UFOs.
# Science Fiction Secrets: From Government Files and the Paranormal
# There's Something in the Woods
# Body Snatchers in the Desert: The Horrible Truth at the Heart of the Roswell Story
# On the Trail of the Saucer Spies: UFOs and Government Surveillance
# The Secret Wisdom of Kukulkan
# How to Hunt Ghosts
Martian Glyphs, Space Travel, & Energy
Robert Zubrin, George J. Haas, William R. Saunders
During the first half of the program, founding investigator of The Cydonia Institute, George Haas, and geoscientist Bill Saunders discussed their analysis of geoglyphic formations on Mars and how they have correlations to the cultures of Meso-America, such as the Mayans. For instance, analyzing NASA images of the "Face on Mars" from 1976 to a Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter's HiRISE shot in 2007, the two have concluded that it's a split-faced structure which resembles a set of temple masks in Mexico.
Other structures in the Cydonia region of Mars, like the D & M Pyramid, have elements that resemble specific gods and characters from the creation mythology of the Mayan and Mesoamerican people, such as recorded in the sacred book, the Popol Vuh, they said. One Martian land form, dubbed the Parrot Formation, was said by a veterinarian specialist to have 18 points of anatomical similarity to the bird, said Saunders, who noted that the parrot was a deity in Mesoamerican mythology.
Hass and Saunders suggested that an ET civilization, such as proposed by Zecharia Sitchin, may have visited both Earth and Mars, and left the large art forms on the Martian surface. Their civilization could conceivably still live underground on Mars, they added. For more, see the related images below.
In the latter half of the show, Dr. Robert Zubrin gave an update on Obama's latest plans for space exploration, NASA, and Mars colonization, and also discussed energy policy. He was critical of the recent Augustine Commission's findings on the amounts of money needed to continue the Bush Moon/Mars Initiative, and suggested they overestimated the costs for items such as the Heavy Lift Vehicle.
Zubrin also spoke about the urgent need to free America of its dependence on foreign oil, via making all cars flex fuel, so they can run on methanol. People can get involved in this effort at setamericafree.org. He also argued that controlled fusion, if properly developed, could solve our energy problems both on Earth and in space.
# The Martian Codex: More Reflections from Mars
# Energy Victory: Winning the War on Terror by Breaking Free of Oil
# How to Live on Mars
# The Case for Mars: The Plan to Settle the Red Planet
In the first half of the show, researcher Lloyd Pye presented a short history and an update on the mysterious Starchild Skull. Pye said a young girl stumbled upon the skull in a Mexican mine tunnel around 1930. She brought the weird artifact back to the United States as a souvenir, and kept it until her death in the late 1990s, he continued. The skull then passed to its current owners, Ray and Melanie Young, who immediately realized that it did not belong to a human child, Pye explained.
According to Pye, every piece of (physical and anatomical) evidence he has collected indicates that the 900-year-old relic is not from a human. He believes the skull likely belonged to a human-alien hybrid, and hopes to prove his hypothesis with DNA analysis. Pye said recent advancements in DNA testing along with falling costs (around $250,000) mean he may soon know for certain if the enigmatic skull has alien origins.
But now that a definitive conclusion seems within reach, "things are beginning to work against me," Pye admitted. A deal with the BBC to film a documentary on the Starchild Skull as it undergoes DNA testing has fallen though. In addition, a favorable story set to run in The Daily Mail this past June was pulled, he noted. Pye suggested listeners check out his new Starchild eBook for more info on the topic. He also chatted briefly about human origins, ancient civilizations, and the work of Zecharia Sitchin.
During Open Lines, Henry in Salt Lake City recalled when he was 13-years-old and taken ill with a severe week-long stomach ache. Henry said one night he fell asleep and dreamed of a brightly lit amusement park, where he spent time with a mysterious woman. At the end of the day, the woman asked him if wanted to stay there with her -- forever. Henry told her that he needed to go home, and the woman smiled and said she'd be waiting for him. At this point, he remembered being awakened by his mother and taken to the hospital. Fortunate for young Henry, as his doctor said he would have died of appendicitis had he remained asleep.
Tim in Dayton, Ohio phone in to the "somebody did something special for me" line. Tim said he'd been diagnosed with thyroid cancer when he was 18-years-old and had elected surgery to remove it. While recovering in the hospital, a good friend visited and gave Tim a rare vinyl recording by American punk band Screeching Weasel that he'd be looking for but unable to find.
Another caller to the special topic line, Marianna in Kansas told George how she had been bullied by her classmates in the sixth grade. One teacher who saw how the other kids treated her allowed Marianna into her classroom during recess, she explained. In that classroom Marianna started drawing, encouraged by the teacher's interest in her work. According to Marianna, she went on to become a professional artist.
The final half-hour featured part of George's January 16, 2008 interview with astronomy writer James Mullaney, who discussed his book Edgar Cayce and the Cosmos.
# The Starchild Skull: Genetic Enigma or Human-Alien Hybrid?